Valerie's ultimatum

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Let me start off by saying, it's never right to try and hide a pregnancy from a father. With that said, is anyone else equally disgusted by Valerie giving Lani an ultimatum to tell Eli about the baby or SHE would? How about Lani going to Kayla and telling her Val was in her chart and planning to discuss it with Eli? Couldn't Valerie lose her license over that?

Also, where does Valerie come off telling ANYONE they should have a timeline for telling the truth when she hid Eli's dad from him for his whole life? I get it, she has integrity now and only wants to "tell the truth" but it's not her place. I am 100% for Lani coming clean, but that has nothing to do with Valerie. In my opinion that woman needs to step off!!!
 
I wouldn't say I am disgusted but while this isn't the right way to go about it, I can try to understand from Valerie's point of view. She was wrong to look at Lani's personal doctor file and should be held accountable for that. As Eli's mother, I can certainly understand why she is giving the ultimatum and given her own history of lying about Eli's father, with experience comes wisdom regardless if that is experience is positive or negative.

Now from a man's point of view, or mainly just mine because I cannot speak for all men, but my first reaction would be, " What the.......?? How?" And for those that know me, will understand that part. LOL!

And my second reaction would be why did the mother keep this from me? How long was she gong to keep it from me? And then it would be thank god SOMEONE told me.

Now don't get me wrong I am not giving Valerie a pas but I'm also not giving Lani a pass either because regardless of JJ's mental state, he can get help and learn to deal with this, Theo, his suicidal thoughts and possible future attempts.

While Lani may feel guilty about JJ and what he has gone through at the end of the day Lani nor anyone else can make JJ attempt suicide. She can tell him in a controlled environment with Kayla, Jennifer or anyone else JJ is close to so they can get the proper counselling, treatment, facility for JJ to go to receive the help he needs.

I don't think JJ's story is over yet.
 
I didn't like it myself and I know why Valerie is doing this. But when all of this comes out, I think this will put a strain on her relationship with Eli, and even Abe too when he finds out. Valerie shouldn't even have been looking into those files, so she should be punished for that one, too.
 
I'm too bored by the tropes to care. The writers don't have the foresight to keep this secret for long. Also, Lani has no proof of what Valerie did, and no way to expose her without revealing her own pathetic web of stupidity and lies.

As to Valerie's crime, well big deal. Hope murdered Stefano and is now commissioner. By Salem logic, Valerie should be appointed hospital Chief of Staff.
 
Muzza, I am still laughing, good one.

That said.....JJ is entirely too fixated on this baby. Hovering, the word he used, is a mild word for how he is acting. Much too hyper about this. Lani just told him she hates all the "attention", advice, etc. and there he is, an hour or two later, doing exactly that again. She has to tell him something. Oh, you can tell me anything, you care carrying my child. Did you take your vitamins, baby needs those nutrients.

So, he is just toooo hyper about it all, and he is going to come crashing down eventually, and it may not even be because of learning the truth.

As to Val, yes, she was wrong to sneak Lani's file, and read it. But, she herself did wrong by her own son, regrets it immensely, and wants to protect that son, and her own grandchild as well.

Yes, a lot of lives are being affected by this lie....and Lani is the one at fault for allowing it to go even one day. To quote........"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive", and this ripple effect is certainly proof that is only too true.
 
So will Valerie tell Eli he only has a certain amount of time to fess up to JJ about being the father? If Eli says he also wants to live as if JJ is the baby's father? Guess the question I am getting at, does she want to right a wrong or just a wrong done to her son?
 
Lani should be the one to tell JJ. not Eli. And Eli is in a tough spot currently, because it means telling Gabi as well, and she is in jail, accused of murder. JJ is not mentally stable currently, and it is a shame his mother & sister are not around to see it. Lani knows, which is why she wants Eli to keep his lip zipped, but Lani is going to have to open her eyes, and see the writing on the wall. Better sooner than later.
 
I think Valerie is satisfied that Eli gets to make the choice because he has the knowledge now.

Valerie's regret was never telling David. If Eli chooses to allow JJ to raise the child (assuming Lani doesn't have a tropey mishap) resulting from this pregnancy, that is his choice (and Lani's) and I truly think Valerie would be OK with that.

Then again, we've had a sharp left on Abby to suit DA PLOT, so I won't hold my breath. Frankly I'm done with overbearing parents on soaps.
 
All I know is the worst part of this story is the constantly blubbering Lani. She takes Weepagail to a whole new level. So let it be known throughout the land that I shall now call her Blubbani.
 
Lani really needs to tell JJ the truth now!!!!!! :whack: Or like every other story, he happens to overhear. Give me a break!! :fan: ShaSha
 
I don't have much to add. Both Val and Lani are wrong and both should face consequences.

I was shocked that she actually told Eli the truth. Leads me to believe they will lie to JJ and Gabi.

I think this will lead to:
  • JJ having a mental breakdown or JJ tries to commit suicide again
  • Gabi coming to his rescue and they reconcile
  • Lani and Eli realize they belong together as well
  • Tension for Abe and Valerie
  • Jennifer going ballistic on Lani for causing JJ's breakdown
  • Everyone going ballistic on Kayla
  • Jennifer and Eric getting closer over trying to help JJ
  • Abby continuing to pine over her beloved best friend Andre :rolleyes:
 
I wonder if JJ will go back to feeling hopeless and Abby as well (with Andre's murder) and so both Devereaux kids will need more counselling?

I, too, was surprised that Lani told Eli, so he's not the surprised one, it will be everyone else for a change.
 
Can Eli arrest his mom for looking at Lani's medical records? Someone has to.
A matter like this is usually handled internally, depending on the severity of the breach. Since there is no proof Valerie did anything, she's in the clear for all intents and purposes. The sex stalker Lani is the only one who can implicate her, and would do so only at her own humiliation. (And again, Lani has no proof.)

While what Valerie did was wrong, very wrong, it is one of the least wrong things to have ever happened on this soap.
 
Right........and Val never admitted to Lani that she looked at the records, Lani just guessed, Val said nothing. Well, come to think of it, she DID say her due date was Sept. 17th. But, as you noted, JasonD, Lani has no proof, can only make accusations, and yes, usually, if there WAS proof, it would be handled internally. However, aren't most hospital records in the computer as well? Heck, whenever I go to see my dr., he always opens my "file" on the computer. (every person has their own sign in, and the password is changed every day. )
 
I wonder if JJ will go back to feeling hopeless and Abby as well (with Andre's murder) and so both Devereaux kids will need more counselling?

I was thinking this too. I really hope Marlena gets involved if this is the case. I want Eric to say he's no longer qualified to help JJ and have Marlena step in.

I wonder if there is surveillance video of the nurse's station?
 
However, aren't most hospital records in the computer as well?
Yep. My clinic (based on provider preference) does do some paper files, but by our internal security rules, they are pretty sparse and have to be kept well-locked. (As in, in a locked room, in a locked file.) And those paper files are just what we use face-to-face, then the info is entered/scanned into the computer and the original is shredded.

It suited DA PLOT to have her folder just lounging about. I don't even recall Valerie having to unlock it.
 
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