Really, John?

SarahBeth

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Sorry, but I just don't buy that John would ever kill Steve, let alone pull a gun on Will and then shoot him or Paul. Even under a threat to Marlena, he would find a way to nail the person ordering him to do so. And as much as I loathe imposter stories, this had better be one or John is forever ruined.
 
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Evidently, I believe this storyline is to have Will get his memory back. And why John would be poisoning Steve? Now John may be shooting Paul as well. This is foul and horrible. Hate this whole storyline. ShaSha
 
I hope that it's an imposter because John would never shoot at Will or Paul but an imposter probably wouldn't have had second thoughts about poisoning Steve. I can't even imagine what all this nonsense is about but I do know that it is extremely frustrating and I really dislike it.
 
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Obviously Steve did something that the ISA wants him to pay with his life. This is not a good group of people. They used to be, but of late, they have become, a spy group gone amok. :angry: :beat:

Karibeari, I like the idea of John using tranquilizer bullets. ShaSha
 
I think Steve knows something, was witness to something, that the ISA wants buried forever. Something the government/Congress would not approve of, and they are trying to cover their backs.

Steve may not know or realize what he has seen/experienced/knows is detrimental, but if he did, he would blow the whistle. JUST SPECULATING
 
When all this is over, Marlena should demand that:
  • John immediately sever all contact with the ISA;
  • the ISA's criminal conspiracy be reported so that this corrupt, brutal, inept organization can be disbanded;
  • apologize profusely to Paul, Will, Kayla, Steve, Kayla, Joey, and Little Trippy. (Perhaps, "I'm very sorry. I've been a complete fool. That's a fact");
  • get a thorough medical exam from Kayla because he obviously has a screw loose;
  • take a lengthy vacation so that when Sami comes to Salem do some serious, high-volume screeching about his treatment of Will, he'll be far, far away.
 
I do think it's odd that the ISA all of a sudden is forcing John to murder Steve. I thought it was interesting Will was asking if John was being a pawn again, in which case is actually true. At first I thought the ISA was upset about Steve lying about murdering Ava on a ISA mission. But that seems so mild to kill him for that. I agree with Poirot likely Steve knows something.

I also wonder if Will gains his memory back thinking he is so close to death? And yes I cant wait for Hurricane Sami to return to Salem to bash in John's head and throw in his face about the conference room for the millionth time!
 
When John was the Pawn, he did not have any memory of who he really was. Right now, he knows full well who he is, who his friends and relatives are, etc. He is being blackmailed, Will does not know that.

All Will......and Paul.......know/knew is that John was poisoning Steve, in an attempt to have him eventually die. They think something is wrong with John, he has been hypnotized, brainwashed or something. That said, no matter what they thought, it was just too, too stupid, for Will to confront John, say he was not going to let him .......etc. etc. Will is a guy with amnesia, facing off against a trained ISA agent, a man who has outwitted and outdone countless bad guys. Sheesh!
 
ShaSha said:

Karibeari, I like the idea of John using tranquilizer bullets. ShaSha
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A little thing my husband and I have been throwing around is if tranquilizer bullets are a thing, he's doing that to get Will and Paul out of the way of danger and stop asking questions until he figures out how to stop what's happening involving Steve.

It makes no sense that he's hurting Steve to save his family from being hurt then turn around and hurt his family himself. Not that it makes sense that the ISA would help Steve cover for Joey then now want him dead. Unless that's why they are mad? Joey told the truth thus exposing that they lied to keep Steve out of prison for saying he killed Ava. But is that enough to want him dead? Honestly it's a very annoying storyline!
 
ErasofDiMeras said:
At first I thought the ISA was upset about Steve lying about murdering Ava on a ISA mission.
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Steve didn't lie about murdering Ava as part of an ISA mission. John called Pamela, the head of the ISA, to come and say that Steve killed Ava as part of a mission, and she quickly obliged. Steve had no idea what was going on, but was smart enough to keep his mouth shut and just agree with what Pamela and John were saying.
 
Whatever is going on, John already quit the ISA a while back. Seems they still want him to do this to Steve, by threatening his family. John does seem very mechanical of late.:huh:John always reminds me of Clint Eastwood. The voice tone, the Dirty Harry persona, etc., even the facial expressions. This has been a Clint Eastwood character since he came on the show. Now that he is older, John exhibits more of the Clint Eastwood characteristics. :eek: :love:ShaSha
 
I think it's complete BS that Marlena just gave John a pass for what he did to Will and then sat there mooning at his Valentine gift. And everyone else letting him off the hook just makes me sick. These people went off on Sami for doing what she did. The explanation is just not worthy of them giving him a pass.

When Marlena said that John got the antidote before Steve was basically at death's door is complete crap. Steve was in major respiratory distress, looking like he was going to die, when he got the antidote. Whoever was in on writing this story just wrote a steaming pile of dung. How I wish Sami would come home for just one day a tell off John since nobody else has the danglys to do so.
 
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Yep, that Sami is a saint all right......who cares that she broke a criminal out of a mental hospital in order to recreate her son's murder for him, even though he didn't remember it. Had a homicidal maniac strangling her son, but claimed she was keeping an eye out, huh. Ben could have broken Will's neck before Sami or her goons would have reached him. Gee, if I remember right, no one did a thing on that "attempted murder" did they? And she definitely was guilty of that, plus breaking Ben out of his hospital jail. Tsk, tsk.

The person to press charges in Steve's case, is Steve, and he said NO. Plus it is a soap. Van Damme is dead, she was the rogue, the one who did the threats, the kidnapping, etc. etc. And they got more on her escapades as well.
 
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The person to press charges in Steve's case, is Steve...
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I'm with SarahBeth. Following orders or not, John committed several crimes, and should have to pay for them. The state can bring charges even if the victim doesn't want it. Hope, as Police Commissioner, should have had charges brought against John. What Sami did was horrible, but it's not fair to compare her crimes to John's. They both broke the law. Only in Salem.
 
Oh, I know all that......Heck, Dr. Baker went thru it all...however, to have Sami be the one to call John out on what he did to Will? Give me a break! John saved Will's life, as the thug following John would have killed Will in an instant. John was constantly being watched, and as VanDamme noted, she would have someone take care of Steve if John did not do it.

What Sami did to Will was far worse, IN MY OPINION, than what John did to Will. He actually protected Will, put him somewhere safe. Except for Steve, no one was really hurt........and the story is not over yet. (yes, I am surprised that the cops did not discuss this in some way, but like everything else in Salem, their laws are "soapy" laws. Only structured to fit storylines.
 
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