It's too soon.... What!!!!

Ok so the last thing I care to see is Carrie and Austin in a love scene.... BUT... If Carrie really loves Austin and wants to put the kiss with Rafe out of her head and show her husband that she loves him and wants a successful marriage then the next logical step when making out on the bed would be to make love. But she tells him it's too soon? And this is supposed to be the man she has committed to loving for the rest of her life? Yeah that will show him she cares.

What bugs me with this whole story of the Carrie and Rafe kiss is that it was written so that not one of them has been innocent or faithful. They are all jerks.

SarahBeth ~ I had the same reaction to the "it's too soon" line. They've been married how many years? There was one ill-advised kiss which both have agreed to put behind them. I don't get it.

Actually it made perfect sense to me. As a woman I connect emotionally FIRST and Austin is so ovewhelmed with wrongly-placed guilty about Abby that they need more time. Time to forgive, accept, and bond again.

Rare day, but I agree SarahBeth! (although the term "make love" makes me squeamish, haha)

If Carrie is truly past it, then she needs to show that.

degaprincess-even a good round of jungle sex would help. lol

Noel-that would ring true if Carrie had an inkling that Austin kissed Abby. She has no idea he thinks he screwed her. His only wrong in Carrie's eyes is Austin saying he should have been more focused on them as a couple. Austin being a man would want to show Carrie that he wanted her in every way which she already knows. Carrie as a woman should have known she should show her husband that she really wants him. "It's too soon" coming from Carrie doesn't make any sense since as far as she knows she's the only one that played extra-marital tonsil hockey. It sounds more like Carrie is holding out because she's still thinking about Rafe and not her husband.

I see your point, but disagree SarahBeth because Carrie needs to deal with her feelings for Rafe first. You don't want to make love to your husband with feelings for another man. The feelings already seem to have dimenished a bit........but she needs to be sure. Knowing she has those feelings put pressure on Carrie's divided heart.

If you look at the whole time and occurrences since Carrie and Austin have returned, it is too soon. Using sex,making love, horizontal mambo... isn't going to show anything, except that they are great at masking their feelings and what is going on. So what if they did make love and the connection they always had is not felt? Then it just propels more distrust and uneasiness for Carrie and Austin.

But, they came to Salem, all happy happy joy joy. Then Austin was working against John's defense, even thinking he could have been guilty. Carrie believed in John's innocence and represented him. At the other household, Sami believed John could have been guilty. Offered Austin to stay with her and Rafe (knowing their history and even having Rafe walk in on an awkward Sami/Austin moment). Rafe loses his job for helping John's defense. He and Carrie start spending more time together. Carrie and Austin spend less time apart and seem distanced with both being on the opposite end of John's innocence or guilt.

Carrie and Rafe start working together. Spending a lot of time together. Have a chemistry together. They dance, showing more chemistry. They end up kissing when they help save a marriage. They are caught kissing by Sami. Sami is still so livid over it (justifiably so) and attacking Carrie.

Carrie and Austin share a moment in bed, and kiss, but Carrie feels it is too soon. Well, yes, I believe that too, Carrie. Get through all this stuff before you sleep with your husband so then you can definitely bask in the 100% mutual love that you share. Otherwise, it is then just sex, with no true meaning, and not fully being invested in the feelings part of making love.

Basically, before the Rafe/Carrie kiss, and the EJ/Sami grief romp, and the Abby/Austin drunk kiss/fantasized sex, Carrie and Austin had issues to resolve in their marriage whihc hadn't been done yet. Only plans, but no action yet.. So yes, to me, it is too soon.

Just my thoughts.

I'm shocked by Carrie's action too They've been through worse and couldn't wait to hop in bed together without any sorting of feelings and what not.

But Carrie has denied having romantic feelings for Rafe and should want to show Austin that. I thought Sami was the only stupid sister.

I'm with you about Abigail.

quote="j hunter capo, post: 332708, member: 1307"]If you look at the whole time and occurrences since Carrie and Austin have returned, it is too soon. Using sex,making love, horizontal mambo... isn't going to show anything, except that they are great at masking their feelings and what is going on. So what if they did make love and the connection they always had is not felt? Then it just propels more distrust and uneasiness for Carrie and Austin.[/quote]

A good healthy sex life is an important part of marriage. Carrie began to distance herself from Austin which also took a toll on their intimacy. Carrie physically sharing herself with her husband would show him that she's committed to their bond. Whether the time of intimacy is more romantic, or more steamy or just one of those damn I pulled a muscle moments doesn't matter. Not all intimate encounters are the wine and roses type. But Carrie couldn't bring herself to have any part of it. And the only reason Austin changed from a broken heart to taking the lions share of the blame is because he feels guilty over being fooled into believing he had drunken sex with a pretty young thing. Had Austin not ran into Abby that night he'd be broken hearted and livid with her for cheating again.

If neither one of them (Carrie or Austin) can't invest 100% of themselves in each other, then making love/having sex/ whatever you want to call it is just a physical act between two people. It wouldn't show any commitment. Just an aversion to the real matters at hand. Communicating and talking to each other without holding things back (on both sides) and being honest with each other about themselves and their feelings or indiscretions (as Austin believes) would be showing more of a commitment to each other than any physical act. It wouldn't be a healthy sex life if they aren't 100% into each other and honest and communicate. It would just be a sex life, which can happen between any two people, with or without emotions, love, lust. But for it to be healthy and an important show of commitment, well there are other factors to address as well - Austin's believed indiscretion, Carrie's dance and kiss with Rafe (more importantly they should discuss the chemistry that they have all seen and felt). Once all that is acknowledged, then they would be able to actually make love/have sex and it be something that shows they are committed to each other.

It Is too soon.

Just my thought.

My reasoning is coming from the point of this. Say Carrie did "show her commitment to Austin" and they did the deed. OK, a commitment was shown. But then Carrie discovers that she does have feelings for Rafe. Ooops, I guess it wasn't a commitment then. But then Austin's believed indiscretion comes out. Oops again. No commitment really. Just a mask to show a perceived commitment and living with their heads in the dirt. Then it would be said, they did it too soon before they worked through everything and communicated what was going on in each other's lives.

J you are still missing the point. A good sex life is an important part of a marriage. Hot jungle sex in the marriage relationship is physical communication that affirms to both partners that they are wanted. Both men and woman want to be wanted by their spouse. Carrie didn't just decide not to show her husband that she still wanted him, she chose to not even try (that shows lack of commitment). "It's too soon" was a line of bs and if Austin didn't feel guilty he would have been hurt that his wife didn't want to be with him. This is after all the same man whom she has been in love with forever and couldn't keep from screwing him when she was married to Lucas and he (Austin) was engaged to someone else. "It's too soon" would make sense coming from an injured party that is scared of being betrayed again. It makes no sense coming from the spouse who was the betrayer.

I think tptb are leading up to a Carrie/Rafe pairing leaving Austin flapping in the wind. Abby would of course be more than willing to pick up the pieces but I don't see them taking that there unless I am wrong and tptb are going to have a reuniting of Sami with Lucas and a new pairing of Austin with Abigail but the last one doesn't make sense to me.

I'd like to see Carrie and Austin go back to Switzerland. Maybe their plane could go down into the ocean.

Any pairing between Rafe and Carrie would only be temporary but I hope it doesn't happen at all. Unfortunately, I think Rafe will forgive Sami...yet again!

Sometimes in the interest of your husband or in the best interest of your marriage... you just go along with it!!! If every woman waited until "the moon was in the seventh house and jupiter aligned with mars", there might be very little love-making going on anywhere! Carrie doesn't seem to mind hugging, kissing, being held by her husband, but it appears she just doesn't want to be intimate with Austin... they have bigger problems than just that kiss!

"its too soon" just meant "you're not rafe". austin is old news. there is no obstacle keeping them apart, so now she has grown bored and ready to move on to the next big fight she can get into with sami.