SPOILER !! Week Dec. 5

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Monday, December 5, 2016
Shawn and Rafe enlist Kate’s help to investigate a lead and uncover shocking news.
Theo invites Valerie to go Christmas tree shopping with him and Abe with the ulterior motive of pumping her for information.

Tuesday, December 6, 2016
JJ appeals to Abigail to let Chad and Thomas know she’s alive.

Wednesday, December 7, 2016
Justin and Sonny discuss this new revelation about Adrienne.

Friday, December 9, 2016
Gabi comforts Chad who has just learned unsettling news about Stefano.
Brady is surprised when Eve returns for a visit.
 
Brady isn't the only one surprised by Eve's visit. I wonder if Shane & Kim
told her anything about Theresa is doing?

It looks like something new is going to be found out about Stefano's death.
Lucky for Hope if something is found.
 
Should we take bets now on whether Brady and Eve sleep together?

I'm wondering if Adrienne may be pregnant with Lucas' kid? The previews a while back said we'd get a cancer story done differently and that's certainly different. Yes I'm aware of how old she is but that's never stopped the show before.

Enough with the Abigail hiding stuff!!
 
So Kate helps Shawn & Rafe uncover something. Hmmm. Let's see now. Kate & Sami managed to take DiMera Enterprises away from Stefano. Later......Kate was working for Chad, was she not?

And Kate WAS married to Stefano at one time. Plus he was the one who helped her into the escort business, and later to climb the corporate ladder to success.

So, what does Kate know.......or have access to....that would help Shawn & Rafe. And what does Chad learn about the man that gets him upset???
 
The Shawn and Rafe spoiler makes me think that they will be going with the theory that Hope didn't kill Stefano after all. I'm going to express what is probably going to be an unpopular opinion but since we are all friends here I feel safe in expressing it: But I really don't like that idea.

Now before I get into why I feel that way I want to preface it by saying to I totally get why people would be willing to get behind that idea. Hope Brady Williams has a been a beloved heroine for years and one half of a super couple; Bo and Hope. People don't want her to have committed murder, I get that. While I will say I prefer the solution of another shooter over the other possibility of the Phoenix resurrecting himself once again. I still feel at this point it will be a big cop out.

We saw Stefano relentlessly taunt Hope, we saw her pump bullets in him in a moment of rage. I know at the time the theory of another shooter started floating immediately afterwards but I never saw the ambiguity. But if they had told that story in the beginning i would have been more willing to go along with it. I just feel like if they do it now it's because they didn't expect the story to damage Hope's character the way it has in a lot of people's eyes so they are desperate to fix it. But I just feel like they've made their beds and they need to lay in it.

Now I realize that they are not writing the character of Hope off the show and Kristian Alfonso (Hope) is not leaving and they're not going just let her languish in prison for more than a few months tops, let alone for twenty-five years. They've got to get her out somehow. Honestly I would prefer it be though proving that Judge Fitzpatrick is a DiMera lackey or heck even some vague technicality like they did with Gabi. Then through some real creativity finding a way to regain some of Hope's tarnished luster as opposed to an instant exoneration. But that's just me.

So Gabi is going to comfort Chad after he gets news regarding Stefano? "sigh* I'm going to be honest I don't hate this story because I love seeing my Gabi :).

But it's time that JJ stop being treated as a afterthought and make him real actual part of the story and show Gabi and JJ can be the couple I think and want them to be as well. It's time for Abigail to stop slinking around. I mean Ken Corday said we will be rooting for both JJ and Gabi as well as Chad and Abigail. And if there's anybody's word we can trust, it's his. Right guys? :)

Uh, guys? *crickets*
 
Gosh, we have so many smart, funny, thoughtful posters, don't we? Love it! :) What gets me about this deal with Hope......I do remember Andre finding that speck of blood on the figurine, bringing it to the attention of the cops, to no avail. But I also know he broke into Hope's house, stole that gun. He had no reason to think Hope shot Stefano, and yet he immediately was blaming her.

Now Bo broke the rules, or bent them til they nearly broke, all the time. But that was fine for Bo, so many viewers feel. Not Hope. Why not? Was Hope to take on the halo and saintly persona that Daniel wore for so many years?

I am wondering if perhaps Stefano had a secret recording device, or video camera that Kate knows about. If so, that could POSSIBLY be how Shawn & Rafe get a clue? Well, just have to wait a couple weeks for that, I guess.
 
I am wondering if perhaps Stefano had a secret recording device, or video camera that Kate knows about. If so, that could POSSIBLY be how Shawn & Rafe get a clue? Well, just have to wait a couple weeks for that, I guess.

A couple of weeks? Do you mean before Abby reveals herself to Chad, or before Joey becomes a dad, or before Nicole finds out Chloe is carrying her baby, or before Brady has a nervous breakdown? Or, maybe by next May sweeps?
 
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Here's two possibilities for Ciara's date I feel. It's either going to be Mark, whom Theo tried to fight or possibly Rory!

Another shooter? How interesting. I agree it is probably to restore Hope's character. That speculation has a possibility to come into play. We do know Anna DiMera is bound to return somehow and is in trouble needing Carrie's legal help. So there's that to consider.
 
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Troy, I'm with you on all counts.

First, I could get behind the second shooter theory rather than Stefano being alive. Hope has stated that she doesn't remember shooting him and yes I know this is inconsistent writing. We have also seen her have many flashbacks. I think they could explain the flashbacks as her dreaming. I also like Poirot's theory of the security footage. I bet that's it. I find it hard to believe Chad would be upset if Stefano is alive so come on writers, give us a twist here. Make this story interesting!

Bigger issue here is whatever happens to Hope, that still doesn't explain Rafe and Roman getting off scott free. Yes we know the charges were dropped but what they did covering up the death was still wrong. At the very least, they should be feeling some guilt for it.

Second, I also agree about JJ. I'm tired of him being an afterthought. I want to see his relationship with Gabi actually develop onscreen and not just hear about it.
 
I think the writers drag out storylines because they think it creates more suspense but we watch the show EVERYDAY. It gets extremely old very fast.
This is being kind to the writers. I've always suspected that they cling to these awful plots like grim death because otherwise they'd have to break a sweat and come up with something new, interesting, and creative.
Honestly I would prefer it be though proving that Judge Fitzpatrick is a DiMera lackey or heck even some vague technicality like they did with Gabi. Then through some real creativity finding a way to regain some of Hope's tarnished luster as opposed to an instant exoneration. But that's just me.
Completely agree. Judge Fitzpatrick's sentence could be tossed out because it's proven that she's been on the DiMera payroll for years (in addition to being on Stefano's Christmas card list). Another ploy would be for Hope to appeal on the grounds of ineffective assistance of counsel. (Difficult in real life, but as shown onscreen, Justin did a wretched job.) With a new lawyer (Carrie?), Hope pleads temporary insanity, and aided by the testimony of experts, is found not guilty. She then becomes a civic hero for ridding Salem of the scourge of the Phoenix.
 
Monday, December 5, 2016
Shawn and Rafe enlist Kate’s help to investigate a lead and uncover shocking news. [The people who write spoilers should realize that because literally anything can and will happen in Salem, no event there could ever be legitimately be described as "shocking."]
Theo invites Valerie to go Christmas tree shopping with him and Abe with the ulterior motive of pumping her for information. [Salem teens must have very dull lives. Why else would they be so interested in the love lives of "old people?"]

Tuesday, December 6, 2016
JJ appeals to Abigail to let Chad and Thomas know she’s alive. [Good luck with that. It looks like Abigail, at a remarkably young age, is determined to be the crazy lady who lives in an attic .]

Friday, December 9, 2016
Gabi comforts Chad who has just learned unsettling news about Stefano. [Just as there can really be no "shocking" news in Salem, by now revelation about the Phoenix could be regarded as "unsettling."]
 
With a new lawyer (Carrie?), Hope pleads temporary insanity, and aided by the testimony of experts, is found not guilty. She then becomes a civic hero for ridding Salem of the scourge of the Phoenix.

Since we saw Martha Madison (Belle) on set for the 13,000th episode and that is in mid January, I'm guessing Belle pops up again soon. So maybe she'll be the new lawyer if one is needed.
 
I just feel like if they do it now it's because they didn't expect the story to damage Hope's character the way it has in a lot of people's eyes so they are desperate to fix it.
I agree. This ties in with the "latent changes" I mentioned in another thread. They've now had time to see fan reaction, write, and film based on that reaction. But they're 8 months into this story. Waaaaay too late to play on an ambiguity like that.
yes I know this is inconsistent writing.
Perish the thought!
 
Finally, some already posted

More spoilers from http://soaps.sheknows.com/days-of-our-lives/spoilers

Monday December 5:

Hattie tells Hope the story of how she wound up in jail, and the two women continue to bond.

Tuesday December 6:

Jade makes herself comfortable at Kayla’s house.

Wednesday December 7:

Philip makes a confession to Nancy.

Thursday December 8:

Abigail is discovered!

Friday December 9:

Abigail resorts to blackmail to keep her secret.
Gabi comforts Chad who has just learned unsettling news about Stefano.
 
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