Eric's a twit

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While I do believe there are plenty of people that wait for marriage to have sex due to religious teachings ,I question which teaching Eric is feeling convicted of deep down. Sure it's possible he just believes in marriage first. But really I think that deep down Eric is hoping something clears his name so he can be a priest and he doesn't want to break the celibacy rule because he would not feel he could go back to the priesthood if he was given the chance. He is lying to himself and Nicole. He's a twit.
I loved Nicole at the party. She was acting out of hurt and anger before she had a drop of wine at the party so I think Eric should have kept his big mouth shut about her having another glass. I think Eric thinks he loves Nicole but all he does is try and correct her when she does something he disagrees with. That's not love that's controlling.
 
Don't see him as a twit. Eric is a man of convictions, Nicole knows that. He has always been very devout, and she knows that, too. He suffered a very traumatic event. Nicole knows that, too. I cannot imagine what she was thinking to attempt to ply him with liquor, seduce him, even going so far as to keep her top unbuttoned and her bra unhooked, and practically force him to have sex.

Did she actually think this was a good idea? That he would be receptive? That is would not bring up horrible memories? While I also believe Eric really would like to be cleared, right now, Nicole knows he chose her, thinking there was no hope of clearing his name. And since she chose to destroy the evidence that would have cleared him, she also knows she only has him by illegal means.

Nicole made a fool of herself at the party, boo hoo, she did not get her way with Eric. Good for Eric for sticking up for his beliefs, Boo to Nicole for trying to force him to go against them.
Eric is not the same man Nicole fell for years ago. He has changed considerably, obviously. She seemed to accept that, but now she does not. She refuses to accept that he is a different man. And still has to come to the realization that they would not be able to live together very long. She is still a schemer, out for herself, and Eric is definitely not. And this party went to show exactly that. She acted up, embarrassed everyone else who did not know what to do or say, as she pranced around the room, ignoring Eric, and wanting to have it out with him right there in front of them all.
 
I think that Eric is putting off being with Nicole due to possible PTSD from the Kristen incident. That was the first time he was intimate with a woman in a very long time, even if it wasn't his choice. The physical act still happened. He is afraid, simply put.
 
Wilde Woman said:
I think that Eric is putting off being with Nicole due to possible PTSD from the Kristen incident. That was the first time he was intimate with a woman in a very long time, even if it wasn't his choice. The physical act still happened. He is afraid, simply put.
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I don't think they're going with a PTSD storyline with this, or Eric would be having flashbacks. I think he's just very strong in his beliefs and Nicole won't accept that.
 
Don't get me wrong on this. I think it's great to have convictions and stand by them. But I think that Eric still holds out hope deep down and if the evidence came to light he would run straight to the church and ask to be reinstated. He's with Nicole as a second choice (third if you count the offer of being a monk). He has expected Nicole to follow his convictions since the day she started working at the church and he looks down upon her when she doesn't. I hate that tptb didn't have Nicole give up the evidence when she found it because she will never truly know if he chose her without it.
 
It's not necessarily PTSD, but I do think Eric has some emotions surrounding the rape that are influencing him here, and Nicole's attempt to seduce him might have triggered those emotions. I also think when he responded by calling Nicole selfish, it not only triggered her insecurities surrounding what she did with that evidence but possibly reminded her of how angry she was when he had been judgmental of her during that time.

Regardless of the psychological issues, it's obvious there is a big conflict of values when it comes to sex right now, and it will be interesting to see if they can transcend it or not.
 
Eric is anything but a twit, and I think if he went from priest to having sex, everyone would riot. It makes sense that he has such strong beliefs, HE WAS A PRIEST, and the last time he and Nicole were together, both were young and had yet to find themselves. A lot has changed and Nicole needs to accept that. I'm quickly starting to dislike them together because Nicole is becoming slimy.
 
Actually, SaraBeth, I think if the evidence came to light, and I really wish it would, ERic would be doing a great deal of soul searching. When he felt they were about to die, and he had no hope of clearing himself with the church, he told Nicole he loved her. But then, they did not die. But Eric is an honest person, and a good man. He told Nicole he loved her, they both lived, and so he should make a life with her. And he decides to voluntarily leave the priesthood, before they expel him.
Nicole is of the mind set, this means they should immediately fall in bed together, but Eric made it very clear to her how he felt about that. And yet, she ignored his feelings. That WAS selfish of her. she wanted what she wanted, and it is why she shredded the evidence. She is now living a lie, and is just as determined as Theresa to bed Eric, figuring it is the way to "keep" him.
I really like Nicole, but do not like what she does, not by a long shot. I hate she has been the person kicked by everyone she meets. but I hate even more that she would betray those who have befriended her and helped her when she was down.
 
Poirot. we almost always agree. You just say it so must better! I have always liked Nicole and felt sorry for her. She and Sami make quite a pair. All they want is to fell really loved and they shoot themselves in the heel!
 
I think this is more about the rape than Eric holding out for evidence to clear him. His beliefs are part of it as well but Nicole really tried to take advantage of him today and that had to trigger thoughts about Kristen. Plus it was extremely selfish and disgusting on Nicole's part.
 
i love Nicole to death but i think she was acting very immature at the "party". if you can even call it a party... First Off Eric was just raped by Kristen and had his business displayed to everyone on a huge screen tv in a church of all places! no wonder he may have reservations about jumping into bed with anyone!! if nicole really loves him the way she claims to then she should accept his decision to wait to have sex. she is coming off ...in my opinion.... like she is in heat!!...the way she was acting at the party was a little more than ridiculous..throwing a fit because she didn't get her way..eric has been through alot the past few months..while yes his holier than thou behavior does get on my nerves at times..cut the guy a break Nicole! maybe take up kickboxing to get all that pent up frustrations out!
 
I agree with Sarabeth and KathyLu~
Eric is holding off and using the "waiting till marriage" as an excuse... all be it a valid one, with Nicole as he really would rather be a Priest then a Layman.
He does love Nicole, but he does not realize that he does not love her in the way that he should.. he will never ask her to marry him.. he is constantly making her conform to what he thinks is the proper thing to do and how to do it.. if it was anyone other than Eric making Nicole behave/be proper we all would be yelling at her to get away from the control freak...
Eric is not wrong in his beliefs at all, but he needs to rethink what he really wants... and realize it is not Nicole, she is his second choice and he took the easy way out by not waiting for the church's action.
As we do not know what they ever decided, do we??
 
I don't want Eric and Nicole to have sex, but not because of his "wait till marriage" reason. I just don't want them together period. The way he treated her when he thought she raped him was disgusting. Even when he found out she didn't do it. She is always going to be second choice for him and never going to be good enough in his eyes. Nicole always forgives people to treat her badly but they always see her as not good enough like Marlena & Jennifer.

I hate the way the writers are making Nicole hide the evidence. Just a few weeks ago she was doing all she could to get him cleared. The writers just build her up to knock her down because they are too lazy to think of a better story.
 
Yeah but they did show Nicole struggle for about 5 seconds with trying to stop Eric from giving up on the church on the day she found the evidence. :confused:

And then they quickly turned her into a lying sneak..... I wish they would have had her tell Eric the truth right after Eric declared that he loved her and wanted a life with her. Then they could have shown him struggle with wanting to go back to being a priest but not wanting to go back on his declaration of 'true love'. Having Nicole try to trick him into sex is just awful. I want to be able to root for Nicole but now I just can't do it with the new way she has acted. As a couple they could have all kinds of interesting struggles finding compatible ground.
 
Poirot said:
Don't see him as a twit. Eric is a man of convictions ... Nicole made a fool of herself at the party, boo hoo, she did not get her way with Eric. Good for Eric for sticking up for his beliefs, Boo to Nicole for trying to force him to go against them.
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Excellent points. As Eric pointed out to the overheated, unbuttoned Nicole, he's been preaching abstinence before marriage to others and for him to now break that rule would make him a complete hypocrite. As for Nicole, she's betraying everyone who put their faith in her. She destroyed evidence that the Love Doctor risked his life to find and that Eric would have regarded as a sign that he should remain a priest. And as icing on the cake, she's now asking Eric to violate his beliefs so she can indulge her sexual appetite. When the truth does come out (as it always does in Salem), Marlena and Sami won't just slice and dice Nicole, at this point, they'll roast her alive.
 
missharleyquinn said:
Eric is anything but a twit, and I think if he went from priest to having sex, everyone would riot. It makes sense that he has such strong beliefs, HE WAS A PRIEST, and the last time he and Nicole were together, both were young and had yet to find themselves. A lot has changed and Nicole needs to accept that. I'm quickly starting to dislike them together because Nicole is becoming slimy.
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I totally agree. Eric didn't stop becoming a priest because his beliefs changed. On the contrary, he believes God lead him to the decision to leave the priesthood. So there is NO reason he should be having sex before marriage it would be completely out of character for him. I actually had a sigh of relief that the writers went this route. It would not be consistant with the character they have developed.
 
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