Days of Our Lives - Wed., June 6, 2018

Designing Woman said:
Stefan's line, "Salem murderers never go to prison." Man, is that the understatement of the year or what?!
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Actually, this needs a small qualification. A few Salem murderers have gone to prison, simply not for very long. Gabi and Tricky Nicky did relatively little time and Little Joey should be getting out as soon as the writers have a story line for him. As for other crimes, Salem insiders like Hope, Lucas, and sourpuss Eric all served remarkably short sentences. Then, there's Xander who seems to have a "get-out-of-jail free" card. Convenient pardons were also available for Nicole and Andre who were needed back for plot purposes. Only the luckless or friendless don't seem to get out of prison these days. These include:
  • Gus (abandoned by Vivian) for attacking prostitutes;
  • Dr. Baker for abetting Hope's mugging rampage;
  • Vargas for a minor drug offense;
  • Ian McAllister for kidnapping Stefano (Victor did this too, but natually got away with it);
  • Eduardo for stealing treasury bonds;
  • Raines for counterfeiting.
Finally, when the writers don't want to bother showing somebody sent to jail, escape is remarkably easy. These lucky people have included Jeremy "Touch the Sky Airlines" Horton, kidnapper Owen Kent, Kristen, and most recently the slippery Sheila.
 
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I know murderers don’t stay in prison long in Salem. But what would happen in the real world if someone like Ben murdered 3 women and attempted to murder 4 others (that would be Marlena and Will, Chad and Abigail)? If the person pleaded guilty by reason of insanity and went to a prison or sanitarium, what would the likely time period that person would be either institutionalized or imprisoned?

Any law experts here able to explain what is normal outside of Salem? It is just very hard to believe Ben would be released. I understand he is “remorseful and sorry for his crimes”. But if the psychiatrist evaluated him and said he had a breakthrough and is now “healed”, does that excuse the crimes? He can go free after 2 years? What is the probation process? Everything about this is very disturbing.

I can’t wait until Eve comes face to face with Ben. She may take the law into her own hands. She will not like that he is free. I wonder if Marlena will let her know that he was released?

As far as Chad goes, I think he has every right to get aggressive and push Ben. After what Ben did to both Chad and Abigail, I think Ben got off pretty easily with a little push and a ride out of town.
 
While it's not the same, John Hinckley, Jr., the man who shot President Reagan, was released in 2016 (with a bunch of conditions):

On July 27, 2016, a federal judge ruled that Hinckley would be allowed to be released from St. Elizabeth's on August 5, as he was no longer considered a threat to himself or others. The pivotal conditions of his release are that he has no contact with the Reagan family, the Brady family, or Jodie Foster or Foster's family or agent. He will live with his 90-year-old mother and be restricted to a 50 mi (80 km) zone around her home in Williamsburg, Virginia. Hinckley was released from institutional psychiatric care on September 10, 2016, and will live full-time at his mother's home. As part of his release, he is excluded from using alcohol, possessing any firearms, ammunition and other weaponry, from reading any printed or online pornography, listening to violent music, speaking to the press, has to work at least three days a week, can drive no more than 30 mi (48 km) from his mother's home or 50 mi (80 km) if attended, and must see a psychiatrist twice a month. His Internet use is subject to limitations and scrutiny, and he is not allowed to erase his computer's web browser history.
 
Thanks for the summary and for telling us know the show wouldn't be on for the next two days. I didn't know that.

I'm glad I was behind a little so I can watch this today.

Just Samantha, I was thinking about Hinkley as I read the comments but I couldn't think of his name. Thanks. To me, the most offensive thing about Ben getting released (besides the fact that he got released) was his plan to go to Will or anyone else he hurt to try to make amends. The people whose lives he ruined are probably not ever going to get over what he did so if he was going to get released, he should have gone far away from Salem to let them live in peace. Also, it is unthinkable that he wouldn't have any restrictions or be under supervision, even as John Hinkley was.
 
Evidently the writers must have thought the 12 step AA or drug rehab program was how to get Ben into Salem. I remember when Brady got out of rehab, he had to go see people he had hurt in some way to "make amends". (This is when Victor kidnapped him in Austria, brought him back to U.S. and into rehab.)
 
tennisdocc said:
I know murderers don’t stay in prison long in Salem. But what would happen in the real world if someone like Ben murdered 3 women and attempted to murder 4 others (that would be Marlena and Will, Chad and Abigail)? If the person pleaded guilty by reason of insanity and went to a prison or sanitarium, what would the likely time period that person would be either institutionalized or imprisoned?

Any law experts here able to explain what is normal outside of Salem? It is just very hard to believe Ben would be released. I understand he is “remorseful and sorry for his crimes”. But if the psychiatrist evaluated him and said he had a breakthrough and is now “healed”, does that excuse the crimes? He can go free after 2 years? What is the probation process? Everything about this is very disturbing.

I can’t wait until Eve comes face to face with Ben. She may take the law into her own hands. She will not like that he is free. I wonder if Marlena will let her know that he was released?

As far as Chad goes, I think he has every right to get aggressive and push Ben. After what Ben did to both Chad and Abigail, I think Ben got off pretty easily with a little push and a ride out of town.
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I'm not a law expert, but I'm convinced that in real life Ben wouldn't get out so quickly if at all.

But I don't mind that he's out. I also think he can be redeemed using soap opera logic based on past soap opera redemptions (ignoring real world feelings viewers may have about such a person irl).


Wrote out initials....We don't use twitter/text shortcuts here, so that everyone will understand what a post says. Poirot
 
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Welcome, Jack Brady.

Poirot, I hadn't thought of that but there's a huge difference between drug addiction and brutally murdering a bunch of people. If recommending the same kind of rehab was the idea, I wouldn't want to be living in Salem while Ben's rehab plays out.
 
I finally got to watch this episode. I don't like what Kayla is doing. I think Steve may get his vision back, which is good, but overall, it's bound to cause all kinds of problems.

Steve is going to regret advising Tripp to be patient and give Ciara her space. Tripp is going to regret taking that advice.
 
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