Days of Our Lives - Monday, July 14, 2008

[Poirot]

@angelita.........that is about what everyone tells her. Nicole, Chloe, EJ. She tries blaming everyone else for the results of her own actions. Chloe tells her she has had EJ & Lucas dangling like puppets. EJ says Lucas slept with Chloe & him with Nicole because of how Sami treated each of them. Sami rants at Chloe, at Nicole, @ EJ, blaming each of them in turn for Lucas sleeping with Chloe. At first Sami thinks Nicole is lying about what she says (Chloe sleeping with Lucas), but Nicole says it came straight from the horse's mouth. Sami insists Chloe is lying, but Chloe spits it right in her face. Yes, she slept with Lucas. So Sami accuses her of not caring about him breaking house arrest. Chloe is sorry, but Lucas did that on his own.
and later EJ tells her that it was not Chloe who took off his ankle monitor, and not Chloe who brought him to the Salem Inn. He did it on his own, he made his own decision. Not Chloe. And Sami herself is to blame. Oh, Sami hears it from all sides, for sure. He also admonishes Sami for her behavior, that Caroline certainly does not need this kind of trouble now.

 

[corruption]

my main take on all of this is how blase sami really is about lucas schlepping nicole in the elevator..but when ej did it she was incensed..

and it appears ej follows her out of the pub..leaving the woman he schlepped in the elevator in the pub..who does that say he really loves?

the writing is giving us a rollercoaster ride, but yesterday, lucas was like totally unemotional even with sami hanging on him as usual..i think lucas has moved on emotionally..but ej has not.

ej thinks of johnny, allie, and sami as his family!! it may not be legally so, but in his heart that is the way it is. lucas thinks only of allie now..in the elevator with chloe she told him he could never leave his daughter..he agreed, but no mention or thought of sami..

sami is going to be devastated when her loss of lucas is made plain to her..but she has been playing both men..she does love both..one still loves her, one does not..but i do not think lucas wants to hurt her..so he is still playing along..but he never told her yesterday he loves her..just that he did not like her crying.

 

[cryin4days]

Lucas does think of Johnny

@ Corruption.... Lucas does think of Johnny. On Tuesday's show, in the elevator with Chloe, Lucas says that he has to be there for his kids, even if he isn't with Sami. Quoting Poirot's summary "He (Lucas) talks of them having kids together, that he has to be there for Allie, and for Will, but more importantly, for Johnny."

I think that once Lucas is out of jail and he learns that EJ is suing for custody, he will prove once and for all to all naysayers just how much he cares for Johnny.

 

[dayne]

Thankfully I was right that Dan and the nasty granny hooked up while he was drowning his sorrows in liquor...but whats the deal with her saying she has no regrets??

Except that its apparent Dan hooked up with Kate a few times. He even says that he will always be "grateful" for her helping him get through that difficult period.

 

[65days]

EJ needs to get a life

I am sick of EJ! Nuff said!

DITTO! EJ needs to move on and stop playing games. He wants Sami to "grow up" what about him? I've had it with him.

 

[Tripp]

Except that its apparent Dan hooked up with Kate a few times. He even says that he will always be "grateful" for her helping him get through that difficult period.

As well as there is NO GUILT WHATSOEVER from his end in now pursueing Chelsea (again who he didn't want to date before). He should feel like an *** (which he is one) and if you remember his attitude back in the hospital, it's like he asked Chelsea out to SPITE Kate when they had their talk off camera. Up until then, he kept telling Chelsea they can't see each other. Then he talks to Kate about what is bothering her (which we now know) and now it's all dandy to ask out her grandkid?

Seroiusly, Daniel looks much much worse in this IMO than Kate.

 

[Hotlumi]

my main take on all of this is how blase sami really is about lucas schlepping nicole in the elevator..but when ej did it she was incensed..

and it appears ej follows her out of the pub..leaving the woman he schlepped in the elevator in the pub..who does that say he really loves?

the writing is giving us a rollercoaster ride, but yesterday, lucas was like totally unemotional even with sami hanging on him as usual..i think lucas has moved on emotionally..but ej has not.

ej thinks of johnny, allie, and sami as his family!! it may not be legally so, but in his heart that is the way it is. lucas thinks only of allie now..in the elevator with chloe she told him he could never leave his daughter..he agreed, but no mention or thought of sami..





sami is going to be devastated when her loss of lucas is made plain to her..but she has been playing both men..she does love both..one still loves her, one does not..but i do not think lucas wants to hurt her..so he is still playing along..but he never told her yesterday he loves her..just that he did not like her crying.

I think you have it backwards..it's Lucas who loves her, EJ is obsessed. as far a blase reaction,huh? attacking Chloe is blase now? Lucas told Sami she wasn't going to lose him. if he was through with her he would of said so. Sami always chooses Lucas at the end of the day, feelings or not for EJ, it's Lucas who continues to hold her heart in his hand. also Lucas brought up needing to ne there for Will,Johnny & allie. he didn't mention not leaving Sami because in his mind he had already lost her.

 

[Hotlumi]

DITTO! EJ needs to move on and stop playing games. He wants Sami to "grow up" what about him? I've had it with him.

word!!!!!! I also don't appreciate him blaming the e-sexapade only on Sami..excuse me ? he manipulated Sami for months with the immigration thing and then the annulment lie. he has done everything he can to destroy Lumi and now he has the audacity to pint the finger at Sami for all blame? GMAB!

 

[corruption]

I think you have it backwards..it's Lucas who loves her, EJ is obsessed. as far a blase reaction,huh? attacking Chloe is blase now? Lucas told Sami she wasn't going to lose him. if he was through with her he would of said so. Sami always chooses Lucas at the end of the day, feelings or not for EJ, it's Lucas who continues to hold her heart in his hand.

lucas himself called it.."the mating dance between ej and sami" he recognized it for exactly what it is..and a food fight started after some dialogue which is not in the preview here..

i do not think lucas does not think about johnny..i just did not put it in the post..but it is telling he does not say anything about sami..other than he is done with her. i think he means it, and i think that is good for lucas. lucas is chosen because he is what sami thinks is the safe choice..even nicole nailed it when she told ej.."sami will never admit she loves you because it would mean she has to give up the fantasy that she has changed.."

what do i forecast on this..sami will get another dna test..it will show both children are actually ej's but she is going to lie ...her modus operandi..but ej is not as gullible as she thinks..and by now you would think she would have figured it out..but all in all..this is still a "mating dance" each of them marking out their territory until the inevitable explosion occurs.

i realize there is a deep emotional investment in our preferred couples..so interpretations will vary per our own leanings..but i was once told by a site admin that i should watch the screen..that is where the story is told, in dialogue and facial and body actions..

i can agree with those who say ej had some kind of connection with nicole, just as lucas had with chloe..but the fact that ej is going hardball in order to keep both sami and johnny under his roof shows he is fighting for her..as he once told her, not many are willing to fight to the death for what they love..that is something he admired about her..hopefully soon, she will give in and stop the denial and admit she wants a man willing to fight that hard for her..in fact she did once say that to austin..just before ej came on the scene.."i want a man willing to fight for me..and make me forget about the man i can't have." and yet, she got the man she was referring to..lucas..who at the time was married to carrie..but what did she actually get? he is not fighting for her...he bascially has said go to ej..i don't want you.

 

[Hotlumi]

lucas himself called it.."the mating dance between ej and sami" he recognized it for exactly what it is..and a food fight started after some dialogue which is not in the preview here..

i do not think lucas does not think about johnny..i just did not put it in the post..but it is telling he does not say anything about sami..other than he is done with her. i think he means it, and i think that is good for lucas. lucas is chosen because he is what sami thinks is the safe choice..even nicole nailed it when she told ej.."sami will never admit she loves you because it would mean she has to give up the fantasy that she has changed.."

what do i forecast on this..sami will get another dna test..it will show both children are actually ej's but she is going to lie ...her modus operandi..but ej is not as gullible as she thinks..and by now you would think she would have figured it out..but all in all..this is still a "mating dance" each of them marking out their territory until the inevitable explosion occurs.

i realize there is a deep emotional investment in our preferred couples..so interpretations will vary per our own leanings..but i was once told by a site admin that i should watch the screen..that is where the story is told, in dialogue and facial and body actions..

i can agree with those who say ej had some kind of connection with nicole, just as lucas had with chloe..but the fact that ej is going hardball in order to keep both sami and johnny under his roof shows he is fighting for her..as he once told her, not many are willing to fight to the death for what they love..that is something he admired about her..hopefully soon, she will give in and stop the denial and admit she wants a man willing to fight that hard for her..in fact she did once say that to austin..just before ej came on the scene.."i want a man willing to fight for me..and make me forget about the man i can't have." and yet, she got the man she was referring to..lucas..who at the time was married to carrie..but what did she actually get? he is not fighting for her...he bascially has said go to ej..i don't want you.

he has not said that at all and has fought for her for 2 years now. he's hurt and worn out. EJ is manipulating Sami again and yet this shows his willingness to fight for her? how about accepting her choices for once? he never does that. Sami does have feelings for him. maybe he should let her go and see if she freely chooses him. won't happen because he knows she always choose Lucas.

 

[corruption]

sorry but the essence of the soap drama is the struggle..he may lose, he may win, but giving up is not what makes good soap drama..

 

[DJM]

Saw the show, loved the food fight. My dad even laughed when the lemon pie hit EJ in the face. Was glad the Dr. Dan said that there were two types of strokes and the dangers of TPA. For once they seen to have gotten the medical stuff right. I was surprised at Sami's reaction to the news that Chloe and Lucas slept together. I thought she would have been more angry. It was a real fun show to watch.

 

[mel66325]

There may be more revealed at a later date, but this thing with Kate and Dan just makes NO sense to me.

First of all, I thought Kate knew all along that Chelsea was into the doctor. Maybe I'm wrong on that one. Secondly, when Kate got sick, she didn't want Dan operating on her and she seemed FURIOUS with him anytime he got around her!

Now, we find from the flashback, that in fact Kate came onto HIM and now she has no regrets. I don't get it! I guess in addition to her "condition", Kate has developed a split-personality!

Oh, well! So are the days of our lives.

 

[KathyLu]

if they write in Alison Sweeney's pregnancy (Sami), it would have to be EJ's.

Not necessarily. Remember how Hope was with Stefano and John only, but it was later written in that she and Bo were together in Paris so he could be Zack's daddy? The same thing happened with Hope and Patrick but it turned out that Bo had come to the rescue again, off camera, and Ciara belongs to him.

 

[corruption]

I wonder if this will lead to Sami getting another paternity test to find out if Johnny is really EJ's baby. She will do secretly without EJ's knowledge. muahahaha.
Let's not discredit Sami right away... she comes back with a vengeance
I said the same thing last week something would happen and another paternity test will be bone and we'll find out that Johnny is really Lucas also. That EJ had the results altered. I sure hope it turns out that way. ::evillaugh:
I think the only reason Philip is interested in Morgan is to find out about her dad. He is ueing her.

oh i am sure there has been some finagling with the dna tests..but i think stefano did the finagling since he got the reports first l..i believe he altered allie to be lucas so he thought that it would be easier to get ej away from sami if she had to maintain a tie with lucas..

we got so many anvils hitting us on the head during the cabin stay with how ej bonded with allie...this parallels the marlena and john story with how john bonded with belle before he knew she was really his..

 

[daysfanatic]

Sami

I think Sami is old enough to take the blame/consequences for her own actions now. Blaming Roman/John/Marlena is an easy way to leave Samantha blameless and give her carte blanche to do whatever she wants. This mess in which she currently finds herself was caused by her own indecisiveness and childishness. This chick needs to grow up, or she'll always find herself on the outside looking in. These men should have moved on months ago if you ask me. Who wants to battle for her fickle heart forever?

I am not saying that she is not to blame. I am just saying her role models aren't the best in the world. Actually the mess she is in is caused by her love towards Lucas and her family. If not for trying to save Lucas's life, she wouldn't have twins with two different fathers and if not for trying to stop the feud between the families, she would not have married EJ. She had it in her head that was the only way to keep her family safe. Now, I know that she is the ultimate blame for the decisions that she made, but based on her unstable childhood, that is enough to make someone too insecure to be able to make good decisions in life. I see it everyday. And let's face it. . .the writers have a great deal to do with her personality and her actions. (LOL)

 

[kimt512]

Sami, EJ, Lucas

Well... what do I say?? I can't wait to see the food fight. I'm sure it will be great. I'm glad to know that everyone pointed out to Sami that the two men she loved slept with other people because she couldn't make up her mind. I for one want to see her end up with EJ. He accepts her for who she is and doesn't want her to change like Lucas does... Also, I do have to say I like seeing Nicole and EJ together as well as Lucas and Chloe... I think Lucas deserves some happy acting time as opposed to yelling at Sami all the time... Only time will tell what happens in the town of Salem! Can't wait...

 

[Jade]

I can't believe I'm going to say this but I actually am gong to side with EJ on this one. Sami is not taking responsibility for her part in all this and is taking the twins out of spite.

 

[4pugsmom]

There may be more revealed at a later date, but this thing with Kate and Dan just makes NO sense to me.

First of all, I thought Kate knew all along that Chelsea was into the doctor. Maybe I'm wrong on that one. Secondly, when Kate got sick, she didn't want Dan operating on her and she seemed FURIOUS with him anytime he got around her!

Now, we find from the flashback, that in fact Kate came onto HIM and now she has no regrets. I don't get it! I guess in addition to her "condition", Kate has developed a split-personality!

Oh, well! So are the days of our lives...

I have to agree with you here...I think that many of us are confused...Kate knew all along that Chelsea was into Dr. Dan and should have not gone there no matter what...she is the instigator in this thing and took advantage of the situation because he was drinking/drunk and sad because of dealing with Rebecca and fighting how he was feeling with Chelsea. I am not saying that Dan is blameless but I think that he used Kate to try and fight his feelings for Chelsea. I think too, despite the things that Chelsea said to him, he didn't realize that she had fallen in love with him and when he heard her say that (and when he could admit it himself) he realized that he just couldn't fight anymore. I really love this couple and they will make it through this and be all the better for it...as far as Chelsea & Kate's relationship it will never be the same, if they continue to have one.

 

[DowntownJB]

Anybody think with Sami having a baby in real life that with all this duress in her life that Stan will be back for an appearance? Perhaps during the maternity leave like last time? ; )Deja vu Revenge is best served cold on a platter!