CathyD37
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Thanks Poirot. It's gonna be great to watch.
Sometimes you do have to just accept what happends and move on.
Oliviaunt - i couldn't myself have better it said!
If I couldn't get past someone's evil deeds on a soap (or rationalize them), there is no way I could like Lucas or Kate or Stefano or EJ or Sami or Bo or Patch or John or Marlena, etc. etc. etc.
i'll be the lone dissenter here. this insta redemption of EJ is bogus. all he has to do are good deeds which score him points with his rape victim and he's the new insta saint. you have got to be kidding me? what about all the things he has done?all within the last year?? why is Lucas paying for the exact same thing EJ did to John & Lucas, attempted murder, while EJ gets a free pass? it's simply not beliveable writing & to shove Lucas/Bryan out of the picture to sell it is despicable.
WOOHOO! Great points!!!
Oliviaunt - i couldn't myself have better it said!
If I couldn't get past someone's evil deeds on a soap (or rationalize them), there is no way I could like Lucas or Kate or Stefano or EJ or Sami or Bo or Patch or John or Marlena, etc. etc. etc.
Just to add real quick because I didn't read the entire thread - Excellent post! Could not have said it any better.
I totally agree and to be fair, no one here really "knows" one another as it were. We've never sat down and broken bread so we don't know everyone's histories like true friends would. What some would consider "redeemable", others who have varied life experiences may NEVER forget.Wayne I think the problem here is more fanbase related then actual opinion.
You are all forgetting that Sami is a/the core character....TPTB love her....so you have to accept her as she is.. their star!!!
Ej can hardly be considered anything near that!! James Scott (EJ) is totally being wasted by them trying to "redeem" him, he's much better as a villain!!! Much more for him there. TPTB made a huge mistake trying this one. You can't take someone that isn't invested with all the fans, and make them "the" character of the moment...
They spent months, and months building him evil....and now..."boom"...a lapdog!! Wouldn't be my choice, if I were him. They painstakingly showed us his character...shoved it in our face...every day...and they taught us well!! His crimes (with his pleasure evident) are much more monumental than anything anyone has ever done...and they expect to drop that???
That's the kiss of death, right there. It's evident they changed their minds in mid stream....and they are now sinking....
Sami and Lucas have developed their characters over years and years....before they "slowly" started moving them....to more center stage. That takes time...and a lot of s/l's, not just one....and one of the longest and worst they have come up with, in a long time.
Ej can hardly be considered anything near that!! JS is totally being wasted by them trying to "redeem" him, he's much better as a villian!!!
Speaking in a literary sense, which makes a better villain? Someone for whom no hope exists, or someone who you *know* could go either way but is teetering on the line...?
IMHO, Stephano is the former. No redemption, no reason to "love to hate" him. He's your standard "[SIZE=-1]Snidely Whiplash" cartoon of a villain, replete with moustache and beard.
[/SIZE]EJ Dimera on the other hand may turn out to the be the latter. You can see and feel his humanity and you understand the torment he's going through (caught between his upbringing and his desire to do right). As such, you might be better able understand how he becomes a villain in the end, making him a much more capable, and a much more believable villain than Stephano has been in the last 20 years. Think "JR Ewing syndrome".
Wayne
Speaking in a literary sense, which makes a better villain? Someone for whom no hope exists, or someone who you *know* could go either way but is teetering on the line...?
IMHO, Stephano is the former. No redemption, no reason to "love to hate" him. He's your standard "[SIZE=-1]Snidely Whiplash" cartoon of a villain, replete with moustache and beard.
[/SIZE]EJ Dimera on the other hand may turn out to the be the latter. You can see and feel his humanity and you understand the torment he's going through (caught between his upbringing and his desire to do right). As such, you might be better able understand how he becomes a villain in the end, making him a much more capable, and a much more believable villain than Stephano has been in the last 20 years. Think "JR Ewing syndrome".
Wayne